Amy: Woo.
Me: I know, I feel like… bad. Putting you through this. Um. And a certain point I guess it will, be, better to talk to Patsy about it. Than JonBenet. Because at a certain point JonBenet is out of the equation. Um. I —
Amy: She [JonBenet] has more to say though.
Me: Oh! Okay, go for it! Tell her to say whatever she wants to—
Amy: I still feel that she doesn’t wanna be… you know. Out of this. Right now. So she…
Amy closes her eyes and concentrates.
Amy: She’s telling me that she didn’t do anything wrong. I think she’s saying that to, to help us understand that — she understands. That none of it was her fault. That she didn’t do anything wrong.
Me: Okay. Good.
Amy: Patsy took it as she did something wrong. Patsy’s reaction was something you brought this out in… this person. You know.
Me: It’s victim blaming. It’s the same thing as “What were you wearing that night you got raped?” I mean…
Amy: Exactly. And there was enough… um… so she’s showing me, the dynamic of her and her mom.
Amy resituates herself in her seat. She looks uncomfortable.
Amy: Definite jealousy. Vicariously living through her, which is obvious. Any psychologist or person looking at that could see that, but… she’s telling me that there was very SNAP moments with her. First syrupy sweet, you know, that she would put on in front of other people — but she [Patsy] could snap and just… you know. Yelling and screaming at her. For a small thing. For being a child in general. She [JonBenet] wasn’t allowed to… act like a child. Or to be, immature in any way. Um.
Amy seems to be struggling so I try to fill the silence.
