Ask A Lesbian

Aug. 8, 2012
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These questions have been submitted to me from friends over the past year — questions that they were afraid to ask any other person in the LGBTQ spectrum until I came along. My name is Alison, I am a queer woman living in Denver, and I want you to ask me the questions you’re afraid to ask: the dirtier, more disgusting, or just plain weird, the better!

What’s it like to make the switch from opposite to same sex?

This is a common question, surprisingly. And guess what? You’re not going to hurt any lesbian’s feelings by asking this. You may get the response — “I’ve never been with a member of the opposite sex, actually,” and then you can high five that lady and give her a pat on the back. Or the ass. She is a rarity — a “gold star lesbian.” A gold star lesbian is hard to find! And when you do find her, she’ll be the one telling you that you’re a beautiful, delicate flower that is gorgeous even when you’re bloated from your period because hey — you’re a woman, and that’s goddamn beautiful. For the rest of us screw-ups, there’s a shift that happens.

For me, that shift happened organically. I dated men, was engaged to a man, dated some more men, and just went through life thinking everyone was having sex that made them feel average and then they lied about it to their friends in a Carrie-esque, Sex-and-the-City-told-me-this-is-what-you-do sort of way. I then fell in love with a woman and realized that (for me) I was doing it all wrong! The men were supposed to be my friends, and the women were supposed to be my partners!

But, being with a woman didn’t immediately bring me to that conclusion. It took me a few months to use the term “lesbian,” and though I use it interchangeably with “queer,” I had trouble with it. I didn’t understand how I could go from physically being with a man to a woman a) with such ease and b) for the rest of my life. But, as things do, it took time to learn to be true. Just as you learn to ride a bike or make a favorite dish, it might take a few tries and some practice. Everything was natural in my switch, but that doesn’t make it any less weird!

My changeover from men to women came with the love and support of friends near me and most of my family far away. And though some people aren’t okay with it, the switch from being with men to being with women could actually be changed to switching from what felt wrong to what felt right, or the change of what my mind was taught versus what my heart needed.

How can I support a friend that’s just come out?

First off, hurray! I would say excuse yourself to the restroom and do a little dance! This person has just trusted you with the most important information in their world, and they want you to join in on this journey. You are a great friend! Shake your little booty, kiss yourself in the mirror, compose yourself, and walk back out to them. Don’t dance too long — you don’t want them to think you’re in the phone calling every Tara, Rita, and Harriet you know!

Now, sit back down at the table/bar/floor/wherever you are, look that person in the eye, and thank them. Thank them for involving you in their personal life in such an enormous way! For someone to tell you that they’re gay/bi/trans/whatever they identify as is huge!

Next, let them talk. Ask them open-ended questions that are meaningful — “When did you know?” “What helped you come to this decision?” Let them talk. Chances are they’ve only had themselves and their cat to talk to, so they might need to get some stuff out. And since you’ve thanked them and let them know that it’s a safe space for them to talk to you, they’ll probably be as open and honest as you want them to be.

Next, ask them what you can do to support them on their journey. Think of that cheesy “Footprints” poem you see posted in churches, nursing homes, and other slightly depressing places. They may need you to walk alongside them, and they may need you to carry them at times. Coming out is rarely an easy process, but they’ve selected you for that journey, so be ready to swim against the school of fish you travel with sometimes.

Lastly, after you’ve shared tears, shots of whiskey, hugs, “ohh-my-GAWD!”s and the like, stand up and hug them. Remind them of your support. Go home, buy a rainbow flag, and become the ally you were born to be! Congratulations — you have joined my LGBTQ family, you sweet baby angel.

What do the LGBTQAIPS… well, really, what do all the letters REALLY mean? Am I saying it right? Whose feelings am I hurting by just saying “gay?”

There are SO many letters added to the “spectrum” of sexuality, and those can be hard for those to grasp if they’re outside of the community. Hell, sometimes it’s hard for me to grasp and I’m boobs deep in it. Let’s have a brief history session, shall we?

LGB (lesbian, gay, bisexual) was the first abbreviation used by the gay community in the 80s, meant to replace, well, the “gay community” as a term. The lesbians and bisexuals were feeling like they weren’t encompassed. In the later 80s, T (transgender) joined the club, and the mid-90s brought the resurgence of the letter Q (queer), which for many is reclamation of the word, seen as all-encompassing of the LGBT community. Q can also include questioning.

As for the other letters, they have joined the club fairly recently. A stands for both asexual and ally — someone who doesn’t have sexual attraction to anyone and someone who will stand with you no matter what your sexual orientation is.

I stands for intersex — someone with the non-presence to distinguish themselves from female to male or vice versa. This includes both physical and psychological identification.

P stands for pansexual — someone who is gender-blind in their love and has sexual and emotional attraction to all people. It differs from bisexual in that it includes those who may not identify in a gender, or someone who identifies with both genders.

S stands for straight. Plain and simple, y’all.

I wanted to answer this question for someone who has started referring to my crew as “alphabet group.” I personally say “LGBTQ,” refer to myself as a lesbian or queer, and accept all of the other forms as totally cool in my book. I don’t say anything past Q not to be non-inclusive, but frankly those truly are a lot of damn letters to say. I have friends who identify in nearly all of those categories, and I love and respect them for who they are.

I consider myself a down to earth human who’s not going to get hung up on you just calling me “gay,” and most people in the spectrum will probably feel the same way. Most people aren’t out to offend others on the regular. What wouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings is asking them what they prefer to identify as. I know a woman who does all actions of a lesbian, but prefers to be called queer. I know of a pansexual woman who prefers to date girly girls and manly men, therefore could fit under the spectrum of bisexual, but if her preference is to be pansexual, then she is pansexual. I’m positive you won’t offend a person in the spectrum if you ask, so do it!

It seems like most of those in the gay community seem to start with the physical relationship and then move into more of the other parts. Maybe this is more true for gay men than women (as I have experienced with having some male gay friends). So, why does it seem like that is the first part of the relationship?

This is a good one. I have to say, from my experience, that it really comes down to emotions. I was once engaged to a man. I have been with other men as well. Other than one relationship, they didn’t start with sex. They started with dates — hanging out, getting to know each other. There’s a trust that needs to be built, and I’ve found that between opposite sexes, that trust takes a while to build. Even if you’re the most in love that you’ve ever been and you feel like you knew that person inside and out after the first date, there’s still a little barrier that needs to be climbed and/or broken down. It’s only natural: men and women don’t always understand each other.

You’ve heard the saying before: men are from Mars, women are from Venus. We’re differently aligned humans, and we don’t always know what the other person wants. Men can be more closed off, like rocks, and not as open with their emotions; women are sometimes crying, emotional wrecks (please read with sarcasm). But in truth, men don’t often wear their emotions on their sleeves like women do. But! In same-sex relationships, all bets are off. I’ve learned from my first relationship that I can be extremely open and honest, because my wonderful girlfriend is also a woman and can read into when I say “everything’s fine.” She is well aware of my emotions because as a chromosomal similarity, she knows what I’m trying to say. Now, this of course can be learned with time in a male/female relationship, but it comes more naturally in same-sex relationships.

Let me share a story with you: I have two friends (well, more than that, but for the sake of the story… two). We’ll call them A and B. Both of these women were previously in relationships. They met at a party I threw. The night they met, there was flirting. The next night was a date. The next night, they had slept together. When A woke up the next day, it just so happened that she was leaving the state permanently. B was heartbroken and cried. I’m pretty sure they now have Skype sex and are really, really into each other. All just after three days of knowing each other.

Women. We are emotional, open creatures and we know what we want (even if we don’t always say it). So when two women enter a relationship together, it’s usually a firestorm of “yes” and “I want you” and the like. I can only assume the natural aggressor in men is the same, which may be your experience with gay men entering sexual relationships early on as well. This being said, when the relationship ends, hold on to your hats, because the lid will be blown off in a major way. You rarely hear about lovely, amicable splits in the LGTBQ community. I had a coworker who had his hair torn out when he left his lover. Drama to the max. But, it’s because all of these heavy, thick emotions are mixed together, and it takes time to untangle and separate them. That’s also the beauty of same-sex relationships: you see a lot of exes brunching together with their new significant others, because once the knots of the past are untangled, they are forever separated. I have heard more LGBTQ people say that they shared a past with this person, so why would they want to hate them if the relationship ended on good terms (aka not because of cheating, etc)? Emotions ride the waves of homosexual relationships, which I believe is why sex is so tied into that. I’m also pretty sure it’s why the sex is so good, but maybe that’s just my assumption. TC mark

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  • Lexi

    Ok, I will go first. I have had many gay friends in my life (I am a 50 year old woman), so most of my questions have been answered. I guess mine is more of a “what is your opinion” than a question. I have a 20 year old daughter in college. As you can imagine, we have had many conversations concerning sex. She had a girlfriend spend the night and woke up with a huge hickey on her neck the next morning. I will admit, I was a little shocked to say the least, but didn’t say to much about it. Later, much later, our conversation got around to that and she has told me on several occasions that nobody in her generation has sex with just a guy or just a girl. She told me she did not know anyone that did not have the occasional girl on girl / guy on guy encounter. If this is true, are we headed toward a generation of everyone at some point being bi-sexual?

    • http://gabydunnthoughtcatalog.wordpress.com Gaby Dunn

      I. Wish. (Okay, sorry! Jkjk, this is for Alison. Backing away now.) :)

      • http://twitter.com/alisonwisneski alisonwisneski (@alisonwisneski)

        Gaby Dunn, I just freaking love you.

    • Jessica

      Maybe I’m naive or maybe 27 is too far removed from your daughter’s generation, but I know lots of people who haven’t had bisexual experiences. I am 100% cool with anyone having whatever consensual sex they want with whomever they want, and I have friends from all over the spectrum but I have never had any sort of curiosity about being with a woman. Unless a drunken New Year’s Eve kiss (far from making out, though) constitutes girl on girl.

      • Clara

        Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. I’m 23, much closer to the OP’s daughter’s age, and I’ve never had any bisexual experiences or any curiousity to try. Maybe she was just worried about what her mom would say, obviously not realizing how cool/accepting she would be.

      • Lexi

        Thanks Clara. I think you are probably right. I have always considered myself open minded and would not have a problem with whatever lifestyle she chose. She just threw me for a loop when she said “That’s just the way it is now”. She is probably still confused herself.

      • Lexi

        Thank you Jessica. At least I got one answer, I too have never been curious. I don’t think that its a matter of you being to far removed from my generation, I think you’re just past the “I know it all” syndrome and she’s not quite there. : ) Thanks again.

    • http://photosandadventures.tumblr.com ilikeghouls

      I am 22, just graduated from undergraduate college, and perhaps because I went to a liberal arts college that tends to be dominantly women, I am aware that a lot of women on my campus have had women-on-women sexual experiences. However, in my generation as a whole, I’m not so sure. I like to think there is validity in the statement that everyone is or will be bisexual in some way. We are naturally curious beings as humans afterall. But my hopeful wishes are thin because of the social constructs in our society. I know people who have had same-sex or same-gender sexual experiences hesitate to utter the word bisexual or any word that refers to queerness especially bisexual because there are negative connotations attached to that identity for some. Sexuality is subjective in that it means what it means to the person identifying as such. We may be entering a generation where people are more flexible and free in their sexual experiences but not so much in their identities. I think people these days are having more diverse sexual experiences with regards to partners and practices, but I don’t know if people will be as forward about it as you daughter.

      • Lexi

        I like to think there is validity in the statement that everyone is or will be bisexual in some way. We are naturally curious beings as humans afterall

        I’m not too sure how I feel about a world without some boundaries and some structure. Doesn’t matter, it won’t be in my life time anyway. Just curious about my daughters comments.

    • http://gravatar.com/rgbell1234 rgbell1234

      I am 23 and I regularly spend a great deal of time both on campus as well as with people ranging anywhere from 18 to 26. I would have to say that either this is simply the case with her inner circle of friends, this is a misunderstanding, or…for whatever reason, she is choosing to mislead you. I can say with 100% certainty that what she has said is *not* the case for 95% of the population in our age range. Things are still very much the same in this respect. I know a a few men and a few more women that have “experimented” but this is usually only a 1 time thing, not recurring. Now, those who identify as gay/queer or bisexual I feel are a bit more lax when it comes to this experimentation, partially because the dynamic is different as the article suggests, and partly because they are trying to find out who they really are. Aside from those exceptions, no one else I am aware of in my age range is making a habit of less gender dependent sex and relationships.

      95% (it would be higher but I have a number of gay and lesbian and a few bisexual friends) of everyone I know has only been with men or only been with women and has never so much as experienced same sex engagements. If anything, it is more likely that it was a 2M-1F threesome in which the men will avoid physical contact with each other, or vice versatile with 2F-1M situations. I will say it seems more likely for the latter stuatiin to result in same sex contact/sexual activity than the former, why that is I don’t know. But aside from people just being a bit more sexually active (Imo) than when you were our age…things are pretty vanilla still in that respect. You will get the same answer if you ask around a college campus or high school. Your child’s statement really threw me for a loop and surprised me to be honest. Which is why I feel she might be talking about her own friend circle and not the general population for her and my age range.

      • http://freethinkinc.wordpress.com rgbell1234

        Also, like some others have stated, I am a man and I have never had any curiousity, attraction or interest in other men. It is pretty clear to me sexuality works on a spectrum and when then some people will have more of a predisposition than others to “bend” where they end up on it, but for myself and the vast majority of people I know, we are all the way on the one end of the spectrum where we have never in our memories had any kind of wish to experiment with the same sex. I do find it interesting though that women seem a bit more likely to do so though. I wonder why that is.

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  • Lindsay M

    Seriously, this question has been plaguing me: Lesbians are not attracted to men, right? So why, then, do so many lesbians make themselves look like men and then date other women who also look like men?

    • http://womandrogyne.wordpress.com womandrogyne

      …why not? :)

      There are so many kinds of woman (just as there are so many kinds of man). The thing is, you’re probably seeing “so many lesbians make themselves look like men” because you don’t notice all the lesbians who are not fitting into that pigeonhole, I suspect – in the same way that you probably won’t notice all the gay men who aren’t “obviously gay”. Those of us who stand out from “the heterosexual norm” are the ones that get noticed, it skews the possibility of realistic perception, I think.

      If you’re a lesbian, it means you’re attracted to women – not that you’re attracted to “a look”. And these aforementioned lesbians aren’t necessarily trying to “look like men”, they’re most probably just looking like themselves – in the same way you choose how you want to look. We’re just so stuck in a “men look like this, women look like that” frame of mind, it’s hard not to think in those terms.

      • Connor

        Best response ever :}

        Thanks for answering that one first, & with such kindness, b/c my answer would have looked not-so-friendly.

    • anon

      I’m not gay, but I’m assuming it’s more of a type thing – why do hipsters wear flannel? Why do some girls only wear dresses? Fashion is a way of styling yourself and feeling comfortable in what you’re wearing. “Looking like a man” is just a gender perception that’s ingrained into our society – there are straight women who wear suits, straight men who wear pink, and whatever else.

      Research shows that more successful couples are more similar than different, so it’s not surprising that a person could be attracted to someone who shares their style.

      It’s not so much about liking women who look like men as it is having a type. Just because someone’s a lesbian doesn’t mean she dreams of long-haired girly-girls; it just means she isn’t attracted to men, which could be a rooted biological thing (pheromones? too much testosterone? something)

      TL;DR, sorry, just putting some thoughts out there

    • http://www.facebook.com/rebecca.raymond.3 Rebecca Raymond

      I personally am attracted to the way women look if they look more masculine, because I myself like the clothes better that men wear then women…. I dress more masculine myself sometimes depending on the day. I also think the answer that WOMANDROGYNE gave you is correct. So listen to her.

  • hadtosayit

    Not to be a hater, since I am a queer lady and all for educating the masses here, but this article is really gender normative. It’s unfair to make generalizations like “women are like this, men are like that” or “homosexual relationships are more emotional”. What does that even mean? People are people– when they get into high-stakes circumstances like relationships, emotions are bound to run high, regardless of gender. Also what does that mean for people whose gender identity doesn’t fit into that binary? Are their relationships in an inherently different third category? I doubt it.

    • Connor

      Yea, 2nd this.

    • Alex

      Also found this pretty weird!!

    • http://humorandhonesty.wordpress.com ilikeghouls

      Agreed. I found the section on the dating left me feeling prickly. The rationale has validity that men and women are different and might need more time to get to know each other and to understand each other, etc, but I think dating culture has a lot to do with the gender norms and social constructs of today’s society. If a woman sleeps with a man after the first date, she may be seen as a [insert pejorative term for a women sexual deviant] and a man may be seen as a [insert masculine honorary equivalent to sexual champion]. Sure enough there are women who “break the rules” and sleep the man after the first date and there are men who “break the rules” and want to wait. There is a kind of pressure on heterosexual dating culture that I sadly see many of my friends and family struggle with as they look for partners, wondering what is “acceptable” to do on and after the first, second, third, umpteenth date and what is “acceptable” to do as a man or woman in the relationship.

      I don’t think the golden connection in a relationship is dependent on gender. I’ve dated men who are way more emotional than I am (leaving me feeling like their psychiatrist rather than girlfriend) and I’ve dated women who will divulge nothing (leaving me feeling like I was dating a brick wall). I’m fortunate to say that I’m in a healthy and balanced relationship with a woman now. However, I have met men that any man or woman would be lucky to be in a relationship with because they reflect that kind of healthy balance of emotion and gender understanding. I think what makes for a passionate and genuine relationship goes beyond the “science” of gender. Gender does determine a lot of how we identify ourselves as individuals but the “rules” of gender do more to harm us than good.

      • Missymister

        Thanks for this truly down to earth response. I am so glad you said something. This was driving me crazy!

    • http://twitter.com/alisonwisneski alisonwisneski (@alisonwisneski)

      Hey – I knew this would come up and even though I swore I wouldn’t respond on here, I do wanna clear this up! :)

      I work VERY hard on attempting non gender-specific language, but when it comes to me and my personal experiences, I am a lesbian that identifies as a woman, and so is my partner. Therefore, when it comes to my personal experiences, I am left describing what I know as a woman-to-woman, female-to-female explanation.

      I COMPLETELY agree that I can and should use more non gender-normatives, but at some points, they’re just true for me and my experiences. I truly do believe that a same-sex interaction flows so much differently because of emotions that are tied in.

      Now, if I ever do break up with my lady, there’s no telling what type of person I will date next. I am attracted to women in the womanly sense, but at the same time find those toeing the gender-normative “line” to be incredibly sexy as well. I don’t mean to hurt feelings or step on toes (seriously, ever!!) so thank you for pointing it out, and I’ll work on it next time :)

      Thank you, by the way, for wording this in a nice, non-attacking way. That means a lot and shows your sincerity to the article and its content.

      • http://humorandhonesty.wordpress.com ilikeghouls

        Thanks for the response and clarifications! I’m really glad I didn’t come off as attacking. I do think this is an important article for people to get a more down-to-earth perspective on lesbianism and lesbian relationships. I understand that everyone in the queer community is doing their best to get fair and inclusive information out there. I’m new to regularly browsing Thought Catalog so I look forward to reading more of your articles :)

      • MissyMister

        I think where my hang up comes from, and I should probably have taken a few deep breaths before my response below, is that as the author you in fact did not present this article as if it was coming from your personal experience and opinion only. There is a sense of authority in the article that implies that you feel you are answering on behalf of all within the LGBT(etc). There is total validity in YOUR experience being yours, but it was presented as a universal experience and as THE answer to the question. I am sorry if my anger below at being lumped into an overgeneralized answer comes across as atticking. That is not the intent. The anger is genuine and the desire to expand this dialogue so that people don’t think that your opinions above are representative of the whole is deeply sincere. I appreciate that there is an attempt to answer taboo questions, but please consider separating, distinguishing, or clarifying that sections are based on personal opinion/experience when it comes to these answers. Perhaps site some credible resources for people to learn more.

    • Missymister

      YAY! thanks for this. 100% agreed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alexandra.lizardbreath Alexandra

    Dang, this kind of makes me wish I could turn my boyfriend into a woman. Oh well! I can’t and I love him, I guess I’ll survive. Great article. Nice to see some positive, informative stuff on TC for once.

    • Jami

      I also wanted to mention how nice this non-sarcastic piece was. The internet is taking us into a whole new realm of satire-meets-unbearable-rudeness, and thoughts like this are a lot more enjoyable. Cue “can’t we all just get along” hippy montage.

  • Joe

    Which is the more appropriate term; scissoring or tribbing? How often do you do it with your partner. Also, describe it in great detail… thank you.

    • Lexi

      How often? Every waking minute we can.
      Describe in great detail? Sure, would love to. We get a bunch of old newspapers, cut it up with scissors, and then throw it at old pervs like you.
      Now gtfo.

      • MissyMister

        Unfortunately, when an author says things like ‘the more disgusting and dirty the better’ when inviting questions, this is where the conversation will eventually end up. Perhaps this was the point, or perhaps there should have been a better choice of words when encouraging those questions people have been ‘too afraid to ask.’

      • LexiB

        Either someone is using my name or we have the same name. The Lexi that wrote the how often, describe in great detail is not me. I am the one with the question concerning a statement my daughter made. Guess I’ll go with LexiB from now on. Just wanted to clear that up.

  • Amy

    Absolutely fantastic article, just loved it! One of the most brilliant pieces of writing I’ve seen on TC in a long time, thankyou so much for writing this :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/rebecca.raymond.3 Rebecca Raymond

    I am a 19 year old lesbian with my first girlfriend in a serious relationship. We have been dating for a little over a year. Any advice for young lesbian couples? Please and thanks…from anyone really. :) ily!!!!!!!!

  • Missymister

    I have read this post twice, and shown it to others. In trying to wrap my head around it, I can’t get past my rage — this type of misinformation is so harmful and the misplaced sense of authority on the subject by the author is shocking.

    Beginning with the opening statement- Good thing you came along for the scared “straight” people! This statement came across as deeply arrogant and was a big turn off.

    Paragraph 1- Can you imagine a poor teenage girl reading this finding out that having had a boyfriend or two before coming out or understanding and accepting her identity somehow makes her a “screw up” or not a “gold star?” Ouch. Furthermore, the representation of your so called “gold star” as a magical creature who, not sullied by men, is prone to fall all over herself showering her girlfriend in ridiculous compliments is incredibly insulting both to “gold stars” and to men. Not to mention those poor girls who are not up to “gold star” standard. Ew.

    Question 2- Asking someone when they came to the “decision” is not ok. Most people come to a realization. A decision implies choice. Though there are some people who do choose to take part in same-sex relationships, the idea that there is choice or decision is not true for the majority of us.

    Question 3: There is some serious learning needed here. This is a mess. The “alphabet group” is not a “spectrum of sexuality.” This grouping of letters is a meager attempt at giving a name to those who identify outside of the heteronormative, heteroprivileged, socially constructed gender identity controlling world. This group of letters encompasses so much more than sexuality. It includes those who have a different gender identity, a different biological gender reality, an overall world view and approach to sexuality and its role in culture and society, and different sexual preferences/identities. Trying to say that these are part of a spectrum of sexuality is like saying fruit and meat are part of a spectrum of food. There is a gender identity spectrum, a sexuality spectrum, a biological spectrum, etc. AND there are spectra within those spectra. Some of them intersect with each other.

    So many more issues! You left out Polyamorous as another “P” word. Your Pansexual definition implies that those who identify as such can’t help but be attracted to any human who walks by, and you refer to “both genders” when that social construct is one that has been the most harmful to our overall community.

    “Straightness” is anything but plain and simple. And the word itself implies a “rightness” of this way of being.

    As a person who identifies as queer, I would suggest you hang out with those who are “reclaiming” the word. Though yes, in a sense, it is a word that is meant to encompass all who are outside of the “hetero-normal” that is privileged in our society, it is also a deeply political identity for those who do not fit in any of the other letter areas and who have, as mentioned above, a differing world view and approach to sexuality and/or gender as well as the role of these things in the world.

    “non-presence” Holy fuck–what an insulting thing to say when referring to people who are Intersex. Implying that they either do not understand their sex, do not have the wherewithal to identify as male or female, or that they simply fade into the background is SO disrespectful. Intersex is directly related to a biological make up that is not clearly that of a typical male, or a typical female. Intersex people present in any number of gender identities, sexual preferences/orientations, etc.

    And, of course, following the stereotype of the “G&L”, there is a long way to go in understanding, accepting, and including our Transgendered family. I hope you take an opportunity to dig into this, because it is important and will help you with the rest of what I just said.

    Finally, in your story about your friends, the implication that to be attracted to “girly girls” and “manly men” means that you CAN fit under the label of bisexual (and therefore if you are attracted to “butch girls” and “effeminate men” you are something other than bisexual) is incredibly misinformed.

    Question 4-
    This entire answer is so full of pop-culture stereotype when it comes to gender information that it seems a women’s or gender studies class is necessary. The answer is internally inconsistent, and not in touch with reality.

    Also, this answer “others” the LGBT(et all) community in ways that are completely inappropriate. One of the primary reasons that there is such a mystique and fear of those in the LGBT community is because everyone (us and them) try to pretend like our relationships are SO different. We allow ridiculous stereotypes to define us–as if heterosexual relationships are really any less likely to jump right into sex? Are you kidding me? Gone to any straight clubs lately?

    This answer is so shallow in its analysis that it is impossible to interact with it more than what was said above.

    I know that this is quite the response and ripping-into of this blog that I’m sure was intended to help, but I feel like it is important for those who are choosing to put themselves in the place of “representing” and speaking for a community need to be able to hear feedback from the community when they are not happy with that representation. I am not happy with it. I believe it misinforms. I sincerely hope no one takes this information as fact in any sense of the word. I hope this is helpful in some way.

    Great Resources for REAL information:
    PFLAG: http://community.pflag.org/Page.aspx?pid=194&srcid=-2
    National Gay and Lesbian Taskforce: http://www.thetaskforce.org/
    GLAAD: http://www.glaad.org/
    Transgender Law Center: http://www.transgenderlawcenter.org/
    Intersex Society of North America: http://www.isna.org/

    • Jes

      Missymister, Though I completely agree with all of the info above, and feel you on the frustrations (in a big way) I am not sure the tone is the most effective. Everyone has their journey in figuring this stuff out, and lord knows our society does not make it easy. It is a tough balance between providing a different view or understanding of a subject when you are upset and shutting people down. I don’t know that this was fully shutting down, but the anger came out a little more strongly than the good info you were sharing–possibly preventing you from meeting your original goals of posting in the first place. Food for thought!

    • b.

      I agree with Jes – your tone does not help accomplish your goals. I believe it is good and healthy to be in conversation with people who don’t share the same views. Your own feelings and experiences are valid, as are Alison’s. I found this article to be a reflection of Alison’s own experience. I don’t think that she is trying to speak for the entire queer community.

    • hadtosayit

      You basically articulated in detail my every reaction to this piece. Thanks for that. Let’s be friends.

      • MissyMister

        I am glad someone out there feels the same! Thanks, Hadtosayit.

        And in response to B. there are some points in the article that are experience based, but word definitions are not. Some of the word definitions were inaccurate and hurtful. My responses are not based in experiences, but in spending time getting to understand the many facets of queer identity in a way that is encompassing. I respect the author’s personal identity on the gender and sexuality spectra, but it is not fair to others to allow that to be the only perspective from which to gather info.

        Also, I don’t believe that just because someone is speaking from their own experience it gives them a pass to get away with giving inaccurate or hurtful information. I would not want any heterosexual person to read some of the items in this blog and think that this info is accurate, nor would I want them to think that this is how they should think about or understand the issues faced by and within the LGBT community. By answering these questions, the author implies that the answers are giving information that would make interactions better or deepen knowledge of the LGBT community. That to me was a scary thought.

        In response to Jes, my anger, though somewhat subdued at this point, was genuine. I reiterate what I said earlier, it came from feeling like this article hurts more than helps, portrays gender as a binary with confusing and inaccurate references to spectrum, and completely misinforms. Because of the constant uphill battle of anyone outside of the heteronormative world, I just think there should be more responsibility taken with the subject matter, and more depth/consideration put into the answers, than simply relying on ones own personal opinions and seemingly limited experiences. This is important and powerful stuff and it is being treated flippantly in many regards. I am all for humor and anecdote, but this information will confuse people or reinforce incorrect ideals.

  • Leah

    thank you for writing this!

  • gaijinrei

    Can we please let go of the term “gold star lesbian” already? And I say that as somebody who technically is one. It’s not something to be proud of, okay? Ooh, I’ve never done this thing that I wasn’t particularly interested in doing!

    I understand why some people might take pride in having not allowed themselves to be pressured into having the kind of relationship people think they ought to have. What I don’t understand is why that has to somehow implicitly elevate them above everybody else. I’m not a better lesbian just because I’ve always been pretty sure I don’t want to have sexual relationships with men. You can keep your star.

    • MissyMister

      THANK YOU! I agree completely and as someone who would also fit into this category, I feel very much the same way. What a harmful internal mechanism to divide ourselves! It drives me crazy!

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