Being Cool At An Ad Agency Is Bad

Oct. 10, 2010
He comes from Seattle, later Oakland, where he co-directed “Sorry I Like To Party.” Currently Erik works at a New ...

I started working as an intern at a major advertising agency in New York City. It’s great and the people are wonderful. I’m getting a substantial opportunity here, and I’m grateful, which is odd considering the hours and pay. However, I have come to realize something that I had always been mistaken about: advertising is not about being cool, having a unique outlook, or being pretentious.

The first day was an indication of things to come.

Immediately my expectations and hopes became a huge impediment to my existence in the workplace. I was in a group of new interns. In advertising, creative teams of one copywriter and one art director work together. I am copywriter. That morning I knew nobody. Some of the other interns knew each other from France and Moscow schools. Not many people were speaking English. That was OK. We got desks, badges, and a brief introduction to the building and our supervisor, who we would not work with directly. She told us to wait for instructions. So we waited. For three hours. Then we waited until the end of the day. Some of the interns were given an assignment. I – along the rest of the copywriters – was not. The day ended. I felt confused. Was this normal? Why was I not working? What did they want from me? I asked some people on Gmail chat. Nobody knew what to tell me. I wanted to start being competitive and making trouble.

In the afternoon I said to someone on Gchat, “If we don’t get an assignment in the next 24 hours I’m going to start bitching.”

We got our assignment in 23 hours. I was spared from making an ass of myself by one hour.

The first day ended and I felt uncertain about how I had done. I spent most of the day on the internet reading obscure blogs. The other interns watched ads or played fantasy sports. I had a positive impression of everyone. I felt that everyone had a neutral or negative impression of me.

I think I started my embryonic career in advertising for typical reasons. I graduated from college with a degree in English Literature and Theory. Before doing so, I had already applied to an advertising portfolio school, and been accepted. My future seemed eventful. I had so much energy and so many intentions, both good and bad. I wanted to use my English degree. I wanted to infect the media I distrusted with simple, honest statements of my own. I wanted to make money. I wanted to help ethical brands thrive and let the unethical ones slowly fade into obscurity. I wanted to travel and sleep around, to some degree. I wanted to find colleagues with similar interests.

The last part is where my plans broke down.

Here is my background. I never watched TV growing up. I had a weirdly feral, overly literate suburban upbringing. I think my parents read to me too much. Their parenting slogan seemed to be “read everything to your kids. And then play NPR constantly.” I spent my teens going to underground punk shows.

Now I live in an ungentrified neighborhood of Brooklyn. I dress way too arty for anyone not involved in high fashion or living off a trust fund. I write too much poetry. My favorite bands are something like Sonic Youth, Too Short, Sade, and The Dead Boys. All this isn’t obscure by ‘blog standards,’ but it starts to seem a little insane when you’re face to face at the water cooler with a guy ten years your senior who wants to talk about the new Arcade Fire Album, in a warm, questioning tone. I’m too cool for school. I know it. I try not to rub it in people’s faces. There are so many faces. So much rubbing can happen.

The second day at the agency I made sure to put the correct foot forward. When you are 6’5″ being overly polite and quiet is better than being talkative and gruff, so I stuck to quiet. I tried to stand up straight. I made no sarcastic comments. I smiled, when I could manage to fake a smile. I fantasized about doing something useful for someone other than myself. I used Twitter.

I worked on things all day at my desk. I had already done an OK job on the first assignment (due that evening) and I was not at all certain what the expectations were.

Advertising is about selling ideas. Selling ideas to clients, but first of all, to creative directors in charge of organizing ideas for a single piece of communication, like a TV ad. That night, all the interns had a meeting at another agency where we were presenting some initial work.

There were some OK ideas presented. I gave my presentation. Intimidated, somewhat, and knowing that in the past I had been accused of not being positive about my own work, I rushed through. I attempted to raise my eyebrows attentively and make eye contact. When I was done, the creative director gave me a sober look and said I was “all over the place” and that he “didn’t see any big ideas.” This meant that a) I had wasted some of the day not working hard enough at concepting “ideas with legs” [the golden gems of advertising that produce compelling stories in a wide range of contexts], b) he had missed some key points because I had actually mumbled in a depressed manner and C) he actually thought I was severely depressed [unfit], and not just mumbling in a detached 60% ironic manner typical of writers and musicians from the west coast under the age of 25. I nodded and tried to gracefully take the direction, asking one question to show that I was engaged, hoping I didn’t sound defensive.

I maintained some kind of composure at the post-class beer swill and was able to make it back to Brooklyn by 11pm. Two days down.

The third day I resolved to spend less time on the computer and play more Foosball with the other interns. Things seemed better. I began to communicate with a potential creative partner [art director]. I made a huge effort to imagine myself communicating my passion for advertising (and yes, there is some passion) with superiors. I was beginning to seem less hopeless.


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  • rob

    Good stuff

  • a polar bear

    honest to god comment: the extension on my google chrome for getting rid of ads is making this whole article disappear.
    .. i didn't read the article.

  • http://www.adamhump.com Adamhump

    that guitar is sweet

  • http://twitter.com/Erikhaspresence Erik Stinson

    @a polar bear, that sucks..

  • http://twitter.com/tylertry Tyler Trykowski

    interns are awkward internships are awkward

  • orange

    the techniques u are using to integrate seem like “how to win friends and influence people”

  • Bert

    you seem like a condescending self-absorbed ass wipe.

  • elaine

    i think we are the same person.

  • Boobs

    Reads like a John Doe entry from the movie Seven.

  • Commedesfuckdown

    Via http://commedesfuckdown.com/

    What’s really difficult is being cool in a world filled with these shitheads who think they’re Mike Seaver because they downloaded Billboard Top 100 Hits of 1994 and moved up from writing Brand New lyrics on their livejournal to doing ink sketches of the Dirty Projectors in their moleskines. I get the sardonicism, but thinking you’re cooler than the old guy at work who cuts your check is about as fresh as the wonderbread in the Voltron luncbox you lug to your cubicle every day.

    While we’re at at, walking around Brooklyn as a “Neu-Masculine,” dressing like an effete lumberjack (in Japanese denim and wool) and buying moustache wax from an apothecary while exaggerating the extant that your mid-west upbringing ingratiated football and brown liquor to you isn’t fooling anyone, you’re what Hot Topic will be selling next year.

  • Commedesfuckdown

    Via http://commedesfuckdown.com/

    What’s really difficult is being cool in a world filled with these shitheads who think they’re Mike Seaver because they downloaded Billboard Top 100 Hits of 1994 and moved up from writing Brand New lyrics on their livejournal to doing ink sketches of the Dirty Projectors in their moleskines. I get the sardonicism, but thinking you’re cooler than the old guy at work who cuts your check is about as fresh as the wonderbread in the Voltron luncbox you lug to your cubicle every day.

    While we’re at at, walking around Brooklyn as a “Neu-Masculine,” dressing like an effete lumberjack (in Japanese denim and wool) and buying moustache wax from an apothecary while exaggerating the extant that your mid-west upbringing ingratiated football and brown liquor to you isn’t fooling anyone, you’re what Hot Topic will be selling next year.

    • Bart

      this is as bad as the article itself.

    • http://twitter.com/Erikhaspresence Erik Stinson

      for me “cool” just means “shithead.” i think we agree.

  • Erik Stinson

    ULTIMATE PEOTREE.

  • http://fochaux.tumblr.com fochaux

    You are such a schmuck.

  • LonelyinGreenpoint

    Being cool is really hard work :(.

    Dude, did you really think anyone would benefit from reading this? Did you write this because a) people love stories about other people's bullshit internships, or b) people love stories told by writers who keep mentioning how fucking cool they are?

    Yikes.

    • Black

      Sorry you're lonely,

    • coolperson

      The best part is that the brief glimpses we get at his his taste in music and experiences growing are highly undifferentiated/unexceptional, and he unironically works at an ad agency while simultaneously maintaining the belief that he is too cool for school. That is the insufferable/hilarious part, I think. Bro, I don't think you 'get' the “too cool for school” thing. You are literally too lame for school. mY eXisisTeNtiAl StruGgles aT tHe wAtEr CoOlEr re aRcaDe FiRe ComMentAry. C-

  • Jon

    When I read this I thought Erik was cool, he convinced me. Just a really tall dude doing shit, being too cool, having sex with people and recording shit on VHS. Listening to buzz bands, writing copy.

  • i suck dick for money i'm gay

    eat a dick

    • not gay

      oh real mature

      great discourse

      any way i though the article had some good points and some bad points

      can't believe someone would suggest you eat what is so obviously not meant to be eaten! it's a male reproductive organ for crying out loud!

      any way this article DID get me into the dead boys who are really great! i had heard some of jeff magnum's solo stuff before this RANDOMLY but 'young loud and snotty' is terrif! keep up the good recs!

  • OldHickory

    I had to comment… you sound horrible. Maybe you're not as bad as you make yourself out- but truly insufferable. Too cool for school comes to mind.

  • kevin

    I am an intern. I don't talk to other people unless it is work-related or extremely 'light' in subject matter (weather, vague 'how are you doing's etc.)

    I do keep my iTunes library on share though. It has deerhunter, velvet underground, twin shadow, elliot smith, etc. I named my library 'p4k-core'.

    Some of the other iTunes libraries at work have sunn o))) and !!! and various 'uber-deck' bands.

    I think working at a traditional ad agency might be why you are unaccepted. You are working at un-cool place.

  • CommeDes..FuckOff.

    who gives a fuck, it's his article he can write whatever he wants,

    don't like it? go annoy someone else.

    and @jon, thats coming from someone who's running a blogspot that “only likes people who are pretty on the outside.”

    your what they were selling in 2008.

  • kreyers

    file this under “who gives a shit”

    get over yourself. you're not as different as you think you are dude.

  • Megan Lynn

    I am not going to lie to you this article had no real purpose in the grand scheme of things. A vast majority of the issues that occurred were your own fault. However I do hope you begin to fit into your internship, and learn that people do not want originality they just want a new spin on an old idea.

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